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Re: Choosing the Right Treatment-Amphetamine Salts ER?
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My 10 y/0 child was recently diagnosed with ADHD and recommended Amphetamine Salts ER 5 MG. He just needs help paying attention in school. He isn't hyperactive nor disruptive (frankly, he has a wonderful loving and creative personality) and have no idea what to expect. We haven't given it to him yet because we are continuing to do our own research. Plus, this doctor seemed very casual to prescribe and didn't even do a full evaluation, didn't even ask my child a single question. Not a good experience but the doctor is supposed to be "one of the best"? Just not feeling comfortable just yet.. |
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Re: Choosing the Right Treatment-Amphetamine Salts ER?
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Both of my kids are on that medicine and both still have a personality. If you have heard that a kid turns into a zombie then that kid is OVER medicated. My son is ADD my daughter is AHD, and again, both have shining personalities. Now that my daughter can sit in class she is learning much more. Now that my son is mentally present in class his grades with through the roof! The medicine has been a complete game changer for both of them for school. Start it ASAP would be my advice. |
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ago, our family doc had us fill out parent evaluation forms, and had her home room teacher fill out an evaluation form. He based his diagnosis on what he saw for himself and what the forms told him. She started out on Concerta which worked very well. The poor kid who argued with everything was able to process what she was hearing and give a rational answer instead of being frustrated and angry with herself. Later she was switched to Vyvanse and had a bad skin reaction as well as it not working. Then she was switched to Adderall and didn't like the way it made her feel. There are so many meds and formulas now that most can find one that works well with few or no side effects. And there's also a swab DNA test that can help understand which meds are most likely to help. We did that test with my other granddaughter (ASD) to know which meds to try for mood and anxiety control.
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Lunacie (01-04-19) |
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you said he needs help paying attention, so did you say that to the doctor? I only ask because kids with ADHD generally lack self awareness, so he probably got the info he needed from you
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Lunacie (01-04-19) |
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My second doc had some hurdles and spent about an hour total between questionnaires and other things before giving meds. Then it was as little as possible, slowly increasing in dose, wuth regular checks in the form of 'are you sure?'. With a hard 30mg ceiling so it would be less likely to be habit forming. Even if he was off base the caution was reassuring. I ended up doing Neurofeedback and I am off my meds completely. I would reccomend that wholeheartedly. Meds are a more ham-fisted approach. My neurofeedback doc says 'this here in your brain map shows you have issues finding the right words for things, the next 5 sessions will deal with that.' They can also identify patients that do not respond well to standard stimulant treatments and help them get the right meds to give them functionality until the treatments get them off meds altogeher. |
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What do you mean when you say "ham fisted"?
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I could be wrong, but I doubt there is a medications based approach that could target a patient's inability to find the words he is looking for specifically, without affecting another aspect of his brain function, either adversely or positively. Just as an example. My treatment had at least 5 different phases, each designed to target a specific aspect of my personal diagnosis.
Meds seem to stimulate in a more indiscriminate way. Of course I am not only not a medical professional, but I did not spend years trying to nail down a medication like some have, so I may be wrong. |
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including being able to think more linearly and think of the words that he or she wants to use. That was the main symptom that I saw improve when I began taking Omega 3 supplements. No more staring at the computer screen trying to remember the word I wanted to use to explain something. No more reading back through something I had posted and wondering what I was thinking at the time. And no more having people I was talking to ask me "Did you mean "this" instead of "that"? Neurofeedback may be helpful as well, but it doesn't have the research that backs up the results the way stimulant meds do.
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![]() Looking for the right word was just an example, The point being nobody is going to credibly say 'trouble finding the right word in a conversation, exactly 6 doses of 300mg omega 3 will fix that right up.' On the other hand, where I was going for Neurofeedback therapy, there was a clear indication from A test that is replicable that this was an issue. I did not bring it up, I got told it was an issue at my consultation - and they were spot on. Then they had a course of treatments set aside for just that, and it worked awesomely. Yes meds can work, and they do for a lot of people, ,and they are indispensable for many, however... the approach is more 'try omega 3 and see if it works', 'stim meds work for most, but some do not respond well and we do not know why', 'many see improvemnts with most symptoms usually, but you may want to try something else as well' There is little that is hard fast clear quick definite with meds, in that sense it seems ham fisted. At least in my limited experience. You may have seen it work differently. As for research, that is changing. You may want to look at a series of posts over here: Quote:
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standard. Sadly, in the ASD community I've seen many parents who were so desperate to "cure" their child that they would try any treatment, and some of the treatments have been and continue to be quite horrendous. For me, it was a fluke that I found Omega 3 to be beneficial. I began taking it to help with menopause symptoms and was quite surprised to find that it was helping my brain fog. I went online to see if there was any research for using to treat ADHD and found that it had been tested with mixed results. Of course, the results for most stimulant meds are mixed as well. Some respond better to one kind of stimulant than another. So when it came to treating my oldest ADHD granddaughter and my youngest ASD granddaughter, we (my adult daughter and I) did a lot of reading, and talked with the psychiatrist about possible side effects and risks before agreeing to trial any meds. But the risk of not medicating/treating at all was clearly, to our minds, worse than most of the side effects of research-proven treatments.
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I appreciate the civility! I know I am advocating for a view that is not mainstream, if it is a valid view, criticle examination only makes it more solid. Last edited by Numbawunfela; 01-07-19 at 01:57 PM.. |
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I hope you all appreciate how hard it is to post quotes like this from a mobile phone with fat fingers...
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Re: Choosing the Right Treatment
Hello. Has anyone had good or bad results from the Drake Institute in Southern California. We’re trying to decide what treatment to use for our 16 year old sophomore. Any feedback would be very helpful. Thank you
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