sometimes I wonder why I'm "ADHD"...

[baical]

I've seen people act hyper/active at universities especially during their get-together nights and "party nights" yet those are mostly kids that are undersexed therefore they have the need to "act it out" (histrionic personality disorder) to take out their sexually motivated aggression (i.e. hypersexual disorder). I would think it's a form of attentive (attention seeking) ADHD co-morbid with psychopathic personality disorder with a hint of impulse control disorder.

You should hear the types of conversations they talk about and their intonation...sometimes I think humans are worse than animals!

It's hard for me to believe these kids are actually graduating with narcissistic accolades. Maybe narcissism is the formula to success? Perhaps the professors are as drunk as the kids and both sides are feeding off each other's energies. If teachers fail these kids, it looks like as if the teachers weren't good teachers. It would look bad on the school. Everything is for profit. It's all a form of "exchange". Students pay the big bucks, the school better provide the "key" to the corporate world (aka the diploma). Looks good on both sides.

[sarahsweets]

I dont think I understand.....

Originally Posted by baical

I've seen people act hyper/active at universities especially during their get-together nights and "party nights" yet those are mostly kids that are undersexed therefore they have the need to "act it out" (histrionic personality disorder) to take out their sexually motivated aggression (i.e. hypersexual disorder).

How do you know what anyone's sex life is like? And to say they are undersexed and need to act out on it seems like a stretch to me."acting out on it" is not the same thing as someone with histrionic PD and I think its offensive to suggest that it is. And to suggest that a personality disorder is results in sexual aggression isnt cool either.

I would think it's a form of attentive (attention seeking) ADHD co-morbid with psychopathic personality disorder with a hint of impulse control disorder.

Do you even understand what you are saying? You are making sweeping generalizations about real, painful PD's and relating them to attention seeking.

You should hear the types of conversations they talk about and their intonation...sometimes I think humans are worse than animals!

I do not even understand what you mean by this.

It's hard for me to believe these kids are actually graduating with narcissistic accolades. Maybe narcissism is the formula to success? Perhaps the professors are as drunk as the kids and both sides are feeding off each other's energies. If teachers fail these kids, it looks like as if the teachers weren't good teachers. It would look bad on the school.

Again, generalizations, judgements and a lack of understanding is evident here.

Everything is for profit. It's all a form of "exchange". Students pay the big bucks, the school better provide the "key" to the corporate world (aka the diploma). Looks good on both sides.

Education is not always about the almighty dollar and about getting ahead in the corporate world. And kudos to whoever can graduate with honors and have adhd.

[Pilgrim]

Can't remember what you do. This, I think , is a cultural issue.

Don't think this attitude helps the young.

[Johnny Slick]

I'm completely lost. There isn't a flavor of ADHD that's "attention seeking". People with ADHD can be attention seekers for sure, and you can even make a case that the attention seeking behavior grows out of the ADHD (I could come up with a couple different ways) but that doesn't make it attention seeking ADHD. Histrionic Personality Disorder is, as the name suggests, a personality disorder whereas ADHD is, so far as anyone can tell, an issue with brain chemistry. They're just plain not the same thing.

One thing I would say in general is that in my experience those of us with ADHD do tend to be a bit narcissistic. I don't mean we have full on NPD or anything like that but a lot of us have spent so much time worrying about fixing our own faults that we begin to become a bit inward-facing and have a tendency to take stuff that's happening around us and has nothing at all to do with us personally. I'm wondering if that's what's happening here. At the end of the day, these kids in college... does it really *matter* to how you live your life how they talk, or how they manage to get good enough grades to pass? Some people just find stuff easier to do than other people, and what's more - and as a person who suffers from ADHD, this might be a thing you may want to pay closer attention to in others, because I know we do it *all* the time - a lot of people can act like everything's going smoothly and they don't care when in fact when they're at home or whatever they care deeply and are working their butts off. Just because you don't like the particular tone a person takes does not make that person stupid or lazy or constantly drunk.

(Also, I went to 4 year college relatively late in life - 29 when I got my degree - and it was not my experience that the professors were "drunk" at work at *all*. No, my experience was that the vast majority of them loved what they did and could talk about their subject matter for hours. If they were "drunk" with anything, it was passion for the stuff they were teaching.)

[ginniebean]

Originally Posted by baical

I've seen people act hyper/active at universities especially during their get-together nights and "party nights" yet those are mostly kids that are undersexed therefore they have the need to "act it out" (histrionic personality disorder) to take out their sexually motivated aggression (i.e. hypersexual disorder). I would think it's a form of attentive (attention seeking) ADHD co-morbid with psychopathic personality disorder with a hint of impulse control disorder.

You should hear the types of conversations they talk about and their intonation...sometimes I think humans are worse than animals!

It's hard for me to believe these kids are actually graduating with narcissistic accolades. Maybe narcissism is the formula to success? Perhaps the professors are as drunk as the kids and both sides are feeding off each other's energies. If teachers fail these kids, it looks like as if the teachers weren't good teachers. It would look bad on the school. Everything is for profit. It's all a form of "exchange". Students pay the big bucks, the school better provide the "key" to the corporate world (aka the diploma). Looks good on both sides.

HOLY CRAP, judge much??

THIS IS NOT AN ADHD PROBLEM. This is some weird messed up stuff sorry to say.

[dvdnvwls]

I am very very confused by the original post in this thread. Has it been edited by mistake?

[Mod note: yes, original post was combined with a reply by accident -- oops! -- but the original version has now been restored. - Namazu]

[dvdnvwls]

baical:

Kids do the things they do. That fact has nothing to do with any of the disorders you've mentioned.

Disorders are also not related to every action that has a similar name. If I get anxious, that doesn't mean I have an anxiety disorder. If I act in a histrionic way, that doesn't mean I have histrionic personality disorder. And so on. It isn't that simple. Not even close.

[Lunacie]

Baical, do you have a PHD in psychiatry/psycology? I'm guessing not since your
post indicates that you're still in school.

Did you know that PHDs who have experience diagnosing mental disorders
Do Not diagnose one person, let alone a whole group of people, based on
overheard discussions at parties. It takes some serious discussion, generally
one-on-one with doctor and patient over some time.

Just thought you'd already caught enough flak over your post, thought I'd
explain what the problem with your comments is.


As far as the last part of your post, I'd agree with that based on stories in
the news in the last few years concerning some students with green
(money) privilege either get away with or get at most a slap on the wrist.
(re Brock Turner)

[TheGreatKing]

Originally Posted by baical

I've seen people act hyper/active at universities especially during their get-together nights and "party nights" yet those are mostly kids that are undersexed therefore they have the need to "act it out" (histrionic personality disorder) to take out their sexually motivated aggression (i.e. hypersexual disorder). I would think it's a form of attentive (attention seeking) ADHD co-morbid with psychopathic personality disorder with a hint of impulse control disorder.

You should hear the types of conversations they talk about and their intonation...sometimes I think humans are worse than animals!

It's hard for me to believe these kids are actually graduating with narcissistic accolades. Maybe narcissism is the formula to success? Perhaps the professors are as drunk as the kids and both sides are feeding off each other's energies. If teachers fail these kids, it looks like as if the teachers weren't good teachers. It would look bad on the school. Everything is for profit. It's all a form of "exchange". Students pay the big bucks, the school better provide the "key" to the corporate world (aka the diploma). Looks good on both sides.

am i missing something here........i am so confused.

[baical]

You can't see what I see. Oh well!

Originally Posted by dvdnvwls

baical:

Kids do the things they do. That fact has nothing to do with any of the disorders you've mentioned.

Disorders are also not related to every action that has a similar name. If I get anxious, that doesn't mean I have an anxiety disorder. If I act in a histrionic way, that doesn't mean I have histrionic personality disorder. And so on. It isn't that simple. Not even close.

[baical]

You're mistaking "overheard" for observations.

You get me? My experiences and observations are clearly different than yours. I get it. I guess I'm not part of this thread's "clique" Or maybe my post was personal that people pretend it's a hoax? The same reason why people become uneasy and mum when it comes to talk about race. Instead of just saying "I don't really get what you're trying to say" or "what are you talking about", try to pay ATTENTION to what I just wrote. There's a legitimate reason why people act the way they do and do the things they do. You don't need a PHD to learn emotional intelligence. There's a reason why people like country and not hip hop and vice versa (both are music genres but it's far from "just music"). There's a reason why people prefer UFC over boxing or nascar vs. horse racing.

They don't get me, you don't get me. Why not dig deeper and step outside the box and do some serious observations?

Originally Posted by Lunacie

Baical, do you have a PHD in psychiatry/psycology? I'm guessing not since your
post indicates that you're still in school.

Did you know that PHDs who have experience diagnosing mental disorders
Do Not diagnose one person, let alone a whole group of people, based on
overheard discussions at parties. It takes some serious discussion, generally
one-on-one with doctor and patient over some time.

Just thought you'd already caught enough flak over your post, thought I'd
explain what the problem with your comments is.


As far as the last part of your post, I'd agree with that based on stories in
the news in the last few years concerning some students with green
(money) privilege either get away with or get at most a slap on the wrist.
(re Brock Turner)

[Little Missy]

Originally Posted by baical

You're mistaking "overheard" for observations.

You get me? My experiences and observations are clearly different than yours. I get it. I guess I'm not part of this thread's "clique" Or maybe my post was personal that people pretend it's a hoax? The same reason why people become uneasy and mum when it comes to talk about race. Instead of just saying "I don't really get what you're trying to say" or "what are you talking about", try to pay ATTENTION to what I just wrote. There's a legitimate reason why people act the way they do and do the things they do. You don't need a PHD to learn emotional intelligence. There's a reason why people like country and not hip hop and vice versa (both are music genres but it's far from "just music"). There's a reason why people prefer UFC over boxing or nascar vs. horse racing.

They don't get me, you don't get me. Why not dig deeper and step outside the box and do some serious observations?

Those are all blanket statements that YOU believe in.

[baical]

I hope I can make you understand;

Here goes: the title of the thread is meant to be a hyperbole!

Considering it is in the "Personality Disorder" thread. I meant to speak of that disorder, not so much ADHD itself. Just upon observations of people and their behaviour, one with enough common sense can figure out what could possible be wrong with them. Ex: if one walks around with a limp, does it mean the person has polio? It's possible. But if you did some serious observation and realized the person was actually an athlete in school, THEN you could imply the person must have sprained his ankle? Right?

Regarding second hand conversations; some cold cases have been solved just by "I've heard these people talk about something" etc. Tone and facial expression changes the meaning of what's being said. I'll give you an example; if I said "Hi" to you in a mild mannered way with a smile, it may come across pleasant. If I said "Hi!" with a grin and a sarcastic tone, would you GET why that is or you'll wait to find out what prank is about to be pulled on you?

You need to read more on psychopathic and or sociopathic traits when it comes to narcissism. It is formula to success for some. Again, my experiences are different than yours but there are lots of stories out there regarding teachers changing grades just to make their quota look "clean".

If you like to disagree just because you have nothing else better to say other than "I don't get it", you're entitled to your opinion. I'm not here to make you "get it". If you don't get it, you're never going to get it.

Originally Posted by sarahsweets

I dont think I understand.....




How do you know what anyone's sex life is like? And to say they are undersexed and need to act out on it seems like a stretch to me."acting out on it" is not the same thing as someone with histrionic PD and I think its offensive to suggest that it is. And to suggest that a personality disorder is results in sexual aggression isnt cool either.

Do you even understand what you are saying? You are making sweeping generalizations about real, painful PD's and relating them to attention seeking.

I do not even understand what you mean by this.

Again, generalizations, judgements and a lack of understanding is evident here.

Education is not always about the almighty dollar and about getting ahead in the corporate world. And kudos to whoever can graduate with honors and have adhd.

[baical]

In what way?

Originally Posted by Little Missy

Those are all blanket statements that YOU believe in.

[Lunacie]

Originally Posted by baical

You're mistaking "overheard" for observations.

You get me? My experiences and observations are clearly different than yours. I get it. I guess I'm not part of this thread's "clique" Or maybe my post was personal that people pretend it's a hoax? The same reason why people become uneasy and mum when it comes to talk about race. Instead of just saying "I don't really get what you're trying to say" or "what are you talking about", try to pay ATTENTION to what I just wrote. There's a legitimate reason why people act the way they do and do the things they do. You don't need a PHD to learn emotional intelligence. There's a reason why people like country and not hip hop and vice versa (both are music genres but it's far from "just music"). There's a reason why people prefer UFC over boxing or nascar vs. horse racing.

They don't get me, you don't get me. Why not dig deeper and step outside the box and do some serious observations?

Yes, clearly we do have different observations.

I had this discussion a few days ago with a mother on an autism forum who
said that it seems everyone has anxiety disorder these days.

Um ... no. They don't. Everyone has anxiety now and then, but when it's
unrelenting and lasts for weeks or months AND it impairs your ability to
live your life well, then it may be diagnosed as a disorder. Only about 1 in
20 people experience that kind of anxiety.

But you shouldn't assume that every person who gets a little anxious about
their latest test grade or getting a promotion at work has anxiety disorder.

And you shouldn't assume that every college kid who is experiencing life
on their own with new freedom and new choices has a form of " ADHD co-
morbid with psychopathic personality disorder with a hint of impulse control
disorder."

I think what most of here are trying to say is what I told that mom on the
other forum ... it devalues our personal experiences with diagnosed disorders
when you assume that everyone at a party suffers from the same issues that
we do.