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Old 03-05-19, 08:33 PM
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Re: The weather

I've been wondering lately if climate change is something to worry about and based on everything I've read, yes, it absolutely is.

We've got winter in the night and summer during the day. The temperatures jump by more than 10C in a matter of a few hours. I don't know if that's a sign of climate change,let alone man made climate change but the fact that we are continuously breaking all weather records (hottest summer, warmest winter, warmest February ever etc) probably is.

Emotionally I can't get myself to be upset about insects disappearing though I should be. Very.

I think of all causes that I should support this might be the most important one but I can't get myself to care that much. Not yet. It's too abstract, too remote or maybe I'm just too ignorant.

Anyway, crazy weather. I never know what to wear.
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I've been wondering lately if climate change is something to worry about and based on everything I've read, yes, it absolutely is.

We've got winter in the night and summer during the day. The temperatures jump by more than 10C in a matter of a few hours. I don't know if that's a sign of climate change,let alone man made climate change but the fact that we are continuously breaking all weather records (hottest summer, warmest winter, warmest February ever etc) probably is.

Emotionally I can't get myself to be upset about insects disappearing though I should be. Very.

I think of all causes that I should support this might be the most important one but I can't get myself to care that much. Not yet. It's too abstract, too remote or maybe I'm just too ignorant.

Anyway, crazy weather. I never know what to wear.
Humans have only been keeping records on the weather for the last 100 years
or so. Who knows what the planet went through 500 years ago, or 1,000? It
seems like no one is taking that into account.
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Humans have only been keeping records on the weather for the last 100 years
or so. Who knows what the planet went through 500 years ago, or 1,000? It
seems like no one is taking that into account.
There's a field called paleoclimatology that uses ice cores, tree rings, sediments, corals, and other evidence to reconstruct past climate and to understand how the climate has changed over time. Fascinating (and important) stuff!



Where I live, the spring crocuses had started to come up and some even had buds, but then we had a cold snap (temperature currently in the teens Fahrenheit/about -10C). I hope they'll still flower once it warms up in a few days!
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Humans have only been keeping records on the weather for the last 100 years
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seems like no one is taking that into account.
I think we know roughly what the planet went through thousands of years ago or even millions of years. The earth has gone through periods of climate change before and if I understand correctly with pretty devastating effects.
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There's a field called paleoclimatology that uses ice cores, tree rings, sediments, corals, and other evidence to reconstruct past climate and to understand how the climate has changed over time. Fascinating (and important) stuff!



Where I live, the spring crocuses had started to come up and some even had buds, but then we had a cold snap (temperature currently in the teens Fahrenheit/about -10C). I hope they'll still flower once it warms up in a few days!
I had read about reading tree rings to chart earthquakes. Had not heard about
using sediment, coral, and other stuff to chart climate changes. Interesting.
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I think we know roughly what the planet went through thousands of years ago or even millions of years. The earth has gone through periods of climate change before and if I understand correctly with pretty devastating effects.
I have trouble blaming the current climate change on humans alone given the
history of long past climate changes.
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Re: The weather

It's not so much the severity of the change in climate, it's how FAST it's changing...which is related to the ways humans have changed everything on earth. The speed of the change is NOT normal based on all the evidence they've found on previous major changes in climate. And that brings up the problem of how reversible the recent changes are and even whether it can be reversed. Our species population is extremely large for a planet of this size and we've become very dependent on huge and relatively expensive (not even $-wise but as related to the cost to the environment of earth) resources compared to our species way back in the past. Our comfort and desires should not be the most important thing in this matter. If our survival as a species becomes questionable (I believe it has already) then what are we going to do? That is hard to discuss logically and unemotionally, but it MUST be discussed. One thing I'd like to say is that the phrase "global warming" doesn't really describe what is happening and shouldn't be used. It's SO much more than that!
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It's not so much the severity of the change in climate, it's how FAST it's changing...which is related to the ways humans have changed everything on earth. The speed of the change is NOT normal based on all the evidence they've found on previous major changes in climate. And that brings up the problem of how reversible the recent changes are and even whether it can be reversed. Our species population is extremely large for a planet of this size and we've become very dependent on huge and relatively expensive (not even $-wise but as related to the cost to the environment of earth) resources compared to our species way back in the past. Our comfort and desires should not be the most important thing in this matter. If our survival as a species becomes questionable (I believe it has already) then what are we going to do? That is hard to discuss logically and unemotionally, but it MUST be discussed. One thing I'd like to say is that the phrase "global warming" doesn't really describe what is happening and shouldn't be used. It's SO much more than that!
Yup like insects disappearing. I hate them but they are vital for the environment apart from what their scarily fast demise is indicating.
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Cool and cloudy with rain.
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Barometric pressure is still falling, wind is gusting up to 35 mph.
Worst migraine I've had since last fall. Wouldn't be up but someone
knocked on the door and I couldn't get back to sleep. Just hurting.
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Re: The weather

Yes, climate fluctuates on its own over time. But there's no denying that humans have sped up the timeline of said changes. It's already scientifically proven that our carbon levels are exponentially higher than they've ever been, and the increase is happening exponentially faster than it ever has. This is proven FACT. Besides, anyone who can look at the changes we've made to the ecosystem and still disagree that we're having an impact needs to quit smoking what they're smoking (or share it with me so I can bask in ignorance with them)!
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Thunderstorms and rain

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nice and clear and warm here
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Warm but thunderstorms n rain..I can't get my lawns in after work w this suckyloo weather
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