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excel 12-03-10 01:49 PM

Tired all the time
 
Is anyone else tired all the time and can't seem to get a handle on it. I have had a lot of blood work done .It's all come back negative. Ialso had a stress test done and cheched for copd and I do have that. I also have sleep apnea and use a cpap machine.

Glimpse Inside 12-05-10 08:03 PM

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I think tiredness is very common for anxiety, depression, ADD. I am also tired, and have a very hard time getting out of bed. I think its a combination of bad sleep, lack of motivation, and anxiety all coming into virtous cycle. Difficult to say which causes what.

lynette19775 12-05-10 08:07 PM

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Do you have any diagnoses? What meds are you taking?

I felt exactly as you described. And I mean everyday. All the time.

I got diagnosed last week and started Adderall and I have experienced a surge in energy. I don't know if it's due to the meds or the lessening of the depression that I think I was having before getting diagnosed. Or if it's both.

My guess is it's probably both.

Can you give us a little more background info on you, if you don't mind?

Mary 12-05-10 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by excel (Post 976615)
Is anyone else tired all the time and can't seem to get a handle on it. I have had a lot of blood work done .It's all come back negative. Ialso had a stress test done and cheched for copd and I do have that. I also have sleep apnea and use a cpap machine.

Have they checked your iron levels? Your thyroid levels? Your vitamin D levels, etc?

I'm taking vitamin D with calcium and also taking a prenatal vitamin(even though I'm not pregnant)..and it helps with my fatigue.

Be sure to talk to your doctor about vitamin supplements.

Patients with fibromyalgia have low D levels... which we need in order to have a somewhat normal day.

excel 12-06-10 10:57 AM

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Yes, I had all the blood work done. It was ok. I have muscle break down. They want me to go to a rhuemtoidologist for that and fatigue. Iam taking BusSpar, Cynbalta, Clairnex D24, Singulair, abilify, and advair

Mary 12-06-10 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by excel (Post 978301)
Yes, I had all the blood work done. It was ok. I have muscle break down. They want me to go to a rhuemtoidologist for that and fatigue. Iam taking BusSpar, Cynbalta, Clairnex D24, Singulair, abilify, and advair

Have they suggested pool/water therapy to keep help work your muscles?

excel 12-07-10 04:21 PM

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no they haven't

excel 12-08-10 03:23 PM

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being tired all the time is gettin to me.need energy and i don't want to rely on caffine

ibisibis 12-09-10 12:41 PM

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have you other stresses in your life? I was like this and went to so many doctors, everything negative. It was only when my life in general was happier and I had less stress that it miraculously vanished

bof00 12-13-10 06:23 PM

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This is the reason I found out about Inattentive ADD, originally from chronic fatigue. Doesn't matter how much sleep I get. I can drink a 5 hour energy and go right to sleep. I can only sleep at night though cause even though I'm physically tired my mind won't go to sleep during the day. I don't have meds yet. They're doing lots of tests with me. Blood work, sleep study, cortisol/adrenals, maybe it's just part of not enough dopamine to convert to norepinephrine that makes me tired.

hollywood 12-14-10 03:28 PM

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maybe it's the meds. I had been complaining about stress and I've been on lexapro for 2 weeks and feel aweful. I have zero drive and zero energy. I'd rather be angry all the time than go through this.

excel 12-15-10 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywood (Post 982773)
maybe it's the meds. I had been complaining about stress and I've been on lexapro for 2 weeks and feel aweful. I have zero drive and zero energy. I'd rather be angry all the time than go through this.

I wish I knew

Possum 12-15-10 09:48 PM

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I suffer from the same problem and lately I have been completely exhausted. Adderall helps a little, but not consistently. I also have depression and anxiety which contribute, I'm sure. Maybe I should see my doctor, but he probably won't find anything. :(

excel 12-17-10 04:00 PM

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Adderral tends to mask tiredness

excel 12-31-10 01:37 PM

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Anxiety will make you feel tired all day. Working and being tired is not good at all

excel 02-21-11 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ibisibis (Post 980177)
have you other stresses in your life? I was like this and went to so many doctors, everything negative. It was only when my life in general was happier and I had less stress that it miraculously vanished

Maybe the anxiety takes it's toll on me and keeps me tired

Bezuidenthustra 02-21-11 01:32 PM

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There have been a few threads about this lately. I suffer from chronic sleep problems and the resulting headaches and fatigue. Fun times!

sarey 02-22-11 12:36 AM

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I just wanna remind people that CFS/M.E and F.M is not just about being "tired all the time".
Common misconception, especially with CFS/M.E, but yeah, it isn't just about being "tired all the time" - actually, people with CFS/M.E wouldn't describe it as just being tired, I certainly wouldn't anyway.

Triptych 02-22-11 05:21 AM

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Sarey - more like constant pain and crushing fatigue, if that's what you mean? It's a disability.

I tend to use hyperbole, but I don't think a phrase like "crushing fatigue" would be out of place describing CFS.

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Originally Posted by excel
Adderral tends to mask tiredness

Good point. Thanks.

Driver 02-22-11 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by excel (Post 979657)
being tired all the time is gettin to me.need energy and i don't want to rely on caffine

If you're regularly having caffeine, try quitting it: I have way more energy since quitting caffeine.

excel 02-22-11 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver (Post 1031651)
If you're regularly having caffeine, try quitting it: I have way more energy since quitting caffeine.

I try to stay away from caffine

sarey 02-23-11 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Triptych (Post 1031650)
Sarey - more like constant pain and crushing fatigue, if that's what you mean? It's a disability.

I tend to use hyperbole, but I don't think a phrase like "crushing fatigue" would be out of place describing CFS.



Good point. Thanks.

not sure i even understand what you mean?

im aware it is a disability, i have it.
so erm, not sure why you said that.

and theres even more to this than pain and "crushing fatigue", well, id say exhaustion to be honest, bone shatteringly so... but either way, not sure how to even explain it, but fatigue/tiredness isnt enough to explain it, it is very debilitating, and much more than just "im tired"...
thats all.
gets to me when people think they have this serious, life ruining condition because they are tired a lot.

Bezuidenthustra 02-23-11 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sarey (Post 1032363)
not sure i even understand what you mean?

im aware it is a disability, i have it.
so erm, not sure why you said that.

and theres even more to this than pain and "crushing fatigue", well, id say exhaustion to be honest, bone shatteringly so... but either way, not sure how to even explain it, but fatigue/tiredness isnt enough to explain it, it is very debilitating, and much more than just "im tired"...
thats all.
gets to me when people think they have this serious, life ruining condition because they are tired a lot.

Triptych was agreeing with you.

Even if someone's fatigue doesn't quite fit the extremes of CFS, being constantly drained of energy, particularly because of lack of proper sleep, is still dysfunctional. I'm a little annoyed that you'd be so dismissive about it, but I do understand that hearing other people whine about not getting enough sleep every now and then would be very irritating to someone who struggles to drag herself through the day because of her debilitating fatigue.

My own sleep-related fatigue is serious, and grows more troublesome by the month. But I wouldnt call it CFS. It's not that severe. Debilitating? Yes. Life-sapping and almost all-encompassing? No.

NorCalAndy8 02-23-11 06:23 AM

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Oh gosh, I really need to change my sleeping schedule. It explains why I'm always a zombie throughout half of my day, on top of my ADD. ugh, alright time for a 20 minute power nap.

excel 02-23-11 10:46 AM

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I wake up to much at night

sarey 02-23-11 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bezuidenthustra (Post 1032395)
Triptych was agreeing with you.

Even if someone's fatigue doesn't quite fit the extremes of CFS, being constantly drained of energy, particularly because of lack of proper sleep, is still dysfunctional. I'm a little annoyed that you'd be so dismissive about it, but I do understand that hearing other people whine about not getting enough sleep every now and then would be very irritating to someone who struggles to drag herself through the day because of her debilitating fatigue.

My own sleep-related fatigue is serious, and grows more troublesome by the month. But I wouldnt call it CFS. It's not that severe. Debilitating? Yes. Life-sapping and almost all-encompassing? No.

be as annoyed as you want, all im saying is i hate it when people think their fatigue is caused by CFS. didnt say it wasnt serious at all, but when they assume its something as serious as cfs, that ****es me off, as well as the misconceptions that cfs is all about fatigue too.

Triptych 02-25-11 03:34 AM

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I was agreeing with Sarey, or with what I thought Sarey was saying.

My point was that the diagnostic profile of CFS is more complex than the surface symptom of fatigue, the same way fibromyalgia is diagnosed after several other conditions are ruled out. I could go into detail, but that would be hijacking the thread, right?

As other disability advocates have said elsewhere, this isn't a zero-sum game. The fact that Person A has more debilitating symptoms than Person B does not mean that either person's complaints are more or less valid than the other's, or that either one is more or less deserving of help.

sarey 02-25-11 07:17 AM

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& nowhere did i say that, all i am saying is being tired more than usual does not mean it is M.E and can actually be insulting for people who are suffering with this ... no word to describe illness, it does insult me when people assume it is this because they are tired more than usual, there is a lot more to M.E than fatigue(and i wouldnt even describe it as that anyway), and you do actually need more than that symptom anyway to have M.E, its very complex.
thats all.
ill be leaving now.

excel 02-25-11 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sarey (Post 1032363)
not sure i even understand what you mean?

im aware it is a disability, i have it.
so erm, not sure why you said that.

and theres even more to this than pain and "crushing fatigue", well, id say exhaustion to be honest, bone shatteringly so... but either way, not sure how to even explain it, but fatigue/tiredness isnt enough to explain it, it is very debilitating, and much more than just "im tired"...
thats all.
gets to me when people think they have this serious, life ruining condition because they are tired a lot.

What are the other symptoms of cfs?

Imnapl 02-25-11 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sarey (Post 1032651)
be as annoyed as you want, all im saying is i hate it when people think their fatigue is caused by CFS. didnt say it wasnt serious at all, but when they assume its something as serious as cfs, that ****es me off, as well as the misconceptions that cfs is all about fatigue too.

Sarey, would you agree that until someone has a confirmed diagnosis, and if their symptoms fit the criteria for CFS, that it would be logical to wonder if one doesn't have CFS?



Imnapl 02-25-11 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by excel (Post 978301)
Yes, I had all the blood work done. It was ok. I have muscle break down. They want me to go to a rhuemtoidologist for that and fatigue. Iam taking BusSpar, Cynbalta, Clairnex D24, Singulair, abilify, and advair

I have a sero-negative inflammatory arthritis. Most family doctors are at a loss unless you have rheumatoid arthritis. When the inflammation was at its worst, I slept round the clock, much like one does with a bad case of influenza. As my doctor explained, the body fights inflammation as it does an infection and its hard work, thus the fatigue. Once I saw a rheumatologist and began treatment, my fatigue level improved.

sarey 02-25-11 03:26 PM

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PM me if you want info about M.E exel, imnapl, no idea why you asked that question, and tbh i dont really care, im really not in the frame of mind for petty debates about an illness i have and suffer with day in day out, i know it like the back of my hand, all i was doing here was pointing out a misconception that this thread has - that m.e is all about being "tired" - completely false. excuse me for trying to raise both awareness and understanding about this dreadful illness.

now, please can no one else address anything i have said, if people wish to discuss things further, PM me, otherwise, goodbye.

excel 02-25-11 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Imnapl (Post 1033832)
Sarey, would you agree that until someone has a confirmed diagnosis, and if their symptoms fit the criteria for CFS, that it would be logical to wonder if one doesn't have CFS?


I just wanted to know what other symptoms describe cfs

Triptych 02-25-11 05:11 PM

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Good question, Imnapl. This discussion is not all about Sarey, as she just told us herself.

Excel: Google is your friend.

LaVieEnRose 03-02-11 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by excel (Post 978301)
Yes, I had all the blood work done. It was ok. I have muscle break down. They want me to go to a rhuemtoidologist for that and fatigue.

Excel, have you had a chance to see a rheumatologist? With the muscle atrophy, do you/they think it could be a type of myositis?
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Originally Posted by Imnapl (Post 1033836)
I have a sero-negative inflammatory arthritis. Most family doctors are at a loss unless you have rheumatoid arthritis. When the inflammation was at its worst, I slept round the clock, much like one does with a bad case of influenza. As my doctor explained, the body fights inflammation as it does an infection and its hard work, thus the fatigue. Once I saw a rheumatologist and began treatment, my fatigue level improved.

I can definitely attest to inflammation (autoimmunity) being a source of debilitating fatigue. If you haven't seen a specialist yet, it'd be worth your while to go and rule out the possibility.

Best of luck to you. Please keep us posted.

excel 03-02-11 09:42 AM

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He said the muscle breakdown is related to the crestor

Imnapl 03-03-11 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by excel (Post 1037067)
He said the muscle breakdown is related to the crestor

Crestor, as in medication for lowering cholesterol? I just checked the website at crestor.com and found this warning:
Serious side effects may include:
Muscle Problems. Call your doctor right away if you experience unexplained muscle pain, tenderness, or weakness, especially with fever. This may be an early sign of a rare muscle problem that could lead to serious kidney problems. The risk of muscle problems is greater in people who are 65 years of age or older, or who already have thyroid or kidney problems. The chance of muscle problems may be increased if you are taking certain other medicines with CRESTOR.

excel 03-04-11 11:32 AM

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my muscle breakdown is gettig better

excel 03-08-11 08:43 PM

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I seem to have a little more energy these days

excel 03-14-11 09:54 AM

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Now that I'm of the cymbalta, and on Lexapro I'm not as tired. I still don't feel like doing a lot of things.


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